"He may come across a beggar, naked and hungry and ask him 'Who are you?' He may answer: 'I am the Supreme Self'. 'Well', I say, 'suffice you are the Supreme, change your present state'. What will he do? M: He will ask you: 'Which state? What is there that needs changing? What is wrong with me? Q: Why should he answer so? M: Because he is no longer bound by appearances, he does not identify himself with the name and shape. He uses memory, but memory cannot use him."